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Old 15-01-2007, 06:54 PM
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As a reasonably new member myself I welcome you to this forum and wish you every success. The forum has many experienced and very helpful members willing to share valuable info.
I joined the forum in September 06 with no experience in purchasing below market value property (BMV). My time is limited due to a demanding full time job and it seemed there was a mountain to climb if I was going to make a serious go of property investing. The posts of John Rattigan particularly impressed me so I logged on his website www.ThePropertyInvestorPA.com and discovered the mountain was going to get smaller.
When starting any business the time and organisation required are commodities that can prove very testing especially if resources are low. It is a very daunting prospect to get the whole thing off the ground on time and within budget. This is where the service provided by The Property Investor PA has proved invaluable. There is absolutely no question that without the advice, direction and commitment offered by The Property Investor PA, I would still be struggling to get things started.

The support together with the wealth of knowledge, have prevented me from making costly mistakes and the extreme professionalism offered has helped my business grow quickly and more efficiently than I thought possible. The attention to detail and informative feedback I’ve received are beyond what could have been expected. I look forward to expanding my business and knowledge further with the aid of John and his team.

Having a team of dedicated professionals on my side giving time to my business when I was not able to has proved to be a very worthwhile enterprise. I would like to take this opportunity to thank John and his team for a job extremely well done.

Furthermore, through John I have met many other property investors and network regularly which is also proving to be very worthwhile.

This post is totally unsolicited, it just occurred to me that the services of the Property Investor PA are so worthwhile that the least I could do was make others aware so they too could benefit.

Duncan.
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Couldn't have said it better.I am also working with John at the moment and I too wouldn't be as far forward as I am.I would highly recommend his service and find him very friendly and approachable,

thanks John
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Hi Duncan, Anna and to everyone that has just joined the forum - I tend to forget to pop in and see the new members here - so this is a big HELLO to everyone. :D

And John is a top bloke so give him a call anyway!

Have fun at the forum and remember - the 'older' members from last year don't bite
So feel free to ask any questions on the 'property chat' and speak to you all soon.

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Yep John is a great guy. I'm doing some business with him at the moment.

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Aw Shucks guys! Thank you so much Duncan, Anna, Bobby and Deep. You are so welcome Duncan/Anna and you do not know how much your kind words are appreciated.

I was saying to Steph (wife/busines partner/best friend) earlier today that I look back to where my life was just 4 years ago and just feel like a millionaire!!! I have previously promised to put details of my journey to the PMM in the Confessions section so I may repost it there, but here is my 'brief' story:

My background is 20 odd years working my way up to management roles, mainly in financial services. The real turning point was the low of a nervous breakdown and depression back in 2002. It was after then that I woke up and slowly started rebuilding my life with the support of Steph, medication and counselling. I had been out of work through yet another redundancy from a middle managment position in corporate land, had a new born baby and was working in a temporary job cleaning for the council. Our dept was building cleaning and I cleaned public toilets, litter bins along the streets and graffitti off of multi storey car park walls and motorway bridges etc. That wasn't the worst part though.....we had to wear bright orange overalls 8)

Despite the overalls and the appalling pay, it was still better than the humiliating and degrading process of waiting in the dole office to sign on and because we started at 7am and finished by 3.30 I could arrange interviews for late afternoons and then do overtime working evenings cleaning the local shopping centre or council offices.

I started studying property investment techniques and also launched my first business doing odd jobs for people. I got an old knackered van for free and just did Ł20 jobs fixing, installing etc here and there for people I knew. I never advertised but word of mouth kept me in work. Most of my clients were single mums and OAP's who couldn't do things for themselves and didn't trust builders. It was a win/win as I was cheap but diligent and reliable. It did grow with my confidence and I took on laminate flooring, fences, and refitted 3 kithcens and 2 bathrooms. It did wonders for my self esteem (which lead to me getting back into a well paid contract corporate job), but odd jobs were never going to support my family and achieve my dreams which I was slowly starting to believe were down to ME to make happen.

This post is long enough already - more details of my background and experience in corporate life can be found on my PA website, so I will just say that we bought our first investment propery about then - broken chain: had sold at Ł142 and we got it for Ł120 but we were fortunate and I admit I really didn't comprehend BMV back then The next 2 or 3 years were spent back in responsible management roles now that my confidence wa back. But corporate life was no longer what I wanted - I was good at it but I had found out who I was and knew that Property featured highly in my future and continued to build my portfolio and do BTS deals in the evenings and weekends around Work and family.
Skipping forward to the last 12 months:
Jan 06
  • In high paid management role for big corporate company
    Spending 3-5 hours a day commuting
    Not seeing my young children and even when I did I was so tired & crabby
    Had the worst boss of my career. She was the MD and her classic line was to walk past me in the corridor one day and say "Oh John - you're reporting to me now" (I had been reporting directly to the Chief Exec).
    To which I replied " Yes I know! I have been reporting to you for about 3 months now!"
    Her reply was to laugh and say "That's alright then and walk off!!!"
    I was sooo frustrated that I couldn't spend enough time on my property business.
    So wanted to be self employed calling the shots but was petrified


Jan 07
  • Full Time Self employed
    Able to devote as much time as I wish to my own property business
    Have launched www.ThePropertyInvestorPA.com to help others who are where I was. LOVE doing it and the success of it has wildly exceeded my expectations. Helping others to grow thier business (and themselves if they so wish), is what I love doing and it is all connected to my 2 passions of property and personal development.
    Still do 3 or 4 days a month consultancy work all over the country for cashflow.
    Growing my own portfolio quicker than planned.
    2 other business interests away from property
    Have a fantastic network of property friends who I enjoy spending time with
    Spend lots of time with my children including being involved in shcool runs, after school activities and the teachers KNOW who I am now.
    Have even made friends with other parents from doing the school run!

I am a lucky man and grateful for the support of people on this forum (you know who you are) for thier friendship, support and trust - That absolutely includes my PA clients who took a chance in trying an unproven service - THANK YOU.

By most people's standards I realise I have achieved nothing yet. Have done a lot of BTS deals and have only kept a small portfolio in UK and abroad, and 10 months on from quitting my job we are only now reaching financial stability again. But to me the achievement is in the freedom and True belief in myself, and the absolute knowledge that I know that the rest of my goals will come with this strong foundation and network in place.

If anyone else reading this feels frustrated, trapped, stuck in a rut or just down about things then I really do know how you feel and I hope that this may have helped in some way. The 3 things that I learnt and applied to help transform my circumstances are:

1. Don't be afraid to ask for, and then accept help. Being stubborn and proud are not neccesarily good qualities if taken to excess. Use the leverage of other peoples help and support - it is surprising and uplifting when you realise how many good people there are who are happy to help - but don't just be a taker. Help others even though there is no beneift and your rewards really do come in other and strange ways LOL.

2. Don't be afraid to cut adript from the negative influences in your life. In the last couple of years have lost friends of 20 years standing, and no longer have much to do with some family members because I made the difficult decision to stop listening to them telling me what I COULDN'T do and start listening and mixing with the positve and supportive people I was drawn to who believed I COULD do things.

3. SImply TAKE ACTION! Action breeds action - take the first step and the next one seems so much easier and nearer and so on it goes. The difference in those that are successful and those that are not are those that are able to successfully EXECUTE a plan. You can have a perfect plan drawn up by an expert, but it is ultimately up to YOU to make it happen. It's YOUR life.

Finally, I am so so lucky to have the support of my wonderful wife Stephanie who many of you also know. Without her trust and belief (and the occassional kick up the backside!) I would still be found bored out of my mind in some boring corporate meeting or crashing my car on the Motorway through exhaustion (true story!)

And I still do the occassional odd job for my regular OAP's from back in 2002 - not because I need to, but because I WANT to. They helped me so it might sound silly because they have no idea of this jouney I have been on and just think I am a full time odd job man, but I don't want to let them down when they need help with something.

Anyway, enough already. Would love to hear more stories from other members.
JR
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Good on you John, I'm glad things are looking up.
And I'd also like to say Thankyou on behalf of the people that you've helped along the way - sometimes we forget how many lives we directly/indirectly affect and change, as I reminded a fellow PMMer today.

All the best...

me
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Thanks for sharing your story John, it will undoubtedly be very insirational to all those who strive to escape the expected 9-5 routine.
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Hi john, i didn't have a clue, what an experience, i feel even better now that i have chosen to work with you, in the knowledge that you can truly understand other peoples ups & downs, and help them to get back on track, together with a solid sounding board.

Speak to you soon.

TAN.

P.S. Now we know who to call, for all our handyman jobs. :P
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Thanks for sharing your story,

Im new to the forum and new to the property business. I can relate to some of the things you say about trying to work a full time job and then have the time and energy to focus on the family and do deals.

It made me smile hearing about your humble beginings working for the council. Im a local authority guy. Used to do the manual stuff years ago but im in a white collar middle management position now. But property is my passion, and would love to one day break away from the 9-5 day job and do this full time.

I really want to learn from guys like you how to get things moving and take my property interests to the next level.

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Thanks for sharing your story,

Im new to the forum and new to the property business. I can relate to some of the things you say about trying to work a full time job and then have the time and energy to focus on the family and do deals.

It made me smile hearing about your humble beginings working for the council. Im a local authority guy. Used to do the manual stuff years ago but im in a white collar middle management position now. But property is my passion, and would love to one day break away from the 9-5 day job and do this full time.

I really want to learn from guys like you how to get things moving and take my property interests to the next level.

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Hi Anwar - sorry for the delay. Only just seen your post.
Yes, the mentality of my colleagues at the council was a real eye opener. I quickly learned that displaying any sort of work ethic was a surefire way to make yourself unpopular

Hope you have been progressing since your post and moving towards your goal of leaving the 9-5 rut. Remember......if you think you can or you think you can't - either way you are probably right!!!

Let me know if I can help in any way.
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John

Tan - I'm sure I can fit in a toilet repair in between the web site building, marketing and due diligence lol!!!!
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brilliant john.
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Hi John

What an inspirational story and wonderful for you to share it with us all.

Many thanks
Jay
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Hi Duncan,
Welcome to the forum - I'm sure you'll love it here
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I have also been working with John over the past few months, having been inspired to contact him after reading this post.

I agree with all the previous posters comments and would add that regardless of where you are experience wise ~ just starting out or expert, but need a confidential "sounding board" ~ the HANDS ON HELP FOR YOUR PROPERTY BUSINESS is the website to visit & John is a great guy to chat with.

Although I had had some successes earlier in my life (not property related) I was just "drifting along" when certain parts of Johns post "struck a chord" with me & I contacted him.

I joined his service & within a short period of time he let me "see" where I was going wrong & he worked out a "track to run on" ~ reviewed weekly ~ which I am still using now, with great success ;o)

The difference in my outlook & approach is incredible in a short space of time.

John is very honest & forthright in his approach i.e. he will "tell it like it is" & whilst he is very patient & encouraging he can also give a "kick up the @r#*" (sorry) when required !

If you are working full time then Johns service is invaluable, carrying out the "menial", but essential, tasks allowing you to utilise your time making deals, thus allowing you to "Go full-time" much quicker if that is your wish !

I would like to thank John ( & his wife Steph ) for all the help & advice they have given me ~ both personal & professionally ~ and would heartily recommend giving him a call & talk through the options open to you.

Thank you John.
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